A fiery debate over the future of health care subsidies took center stage on Chicago’s Morning Answer, where host Dan Proft dissected the political showdown unfolding in Washington while economist Stephen Moore offered a blunt assessment of the Affordable Care Act’s economic fallout.
The conversation follows President Trump’s remarks aboard Air Force One, where he signaled strong opposition to extending Obamacare subsidies enacted under the Biden administration—subsidies that currently allow households earning up to roughly $500,000 to qualify for financial assistance. Trump said he prefers a system that gives money directly to consumers, not insurance companies. “I don’t want to extend them,” he said, though he left open the possibility of a short-term deal as part of broader negotiations.
Proft noted that critics such as Cato Institute health-policy expert Michael Cannon warn of a “woodwork effect,” where expanded eligibility prompts more people to sign up for subsidized coverage, driving costs even higher. Cannon argues that Trump’s first-term expansion of short-term limited duration insurance—plans exempt from many Obamacare mandates—created more affordable options without ballooning federal spending. Those reforms, allowing coverage for up to 36 months with renewal guarantees, remain legally intact and could serve as a template for future action.
The politics became even more tangled in a heated exchange between CNBC’s Becky Quick and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, with Quick pressing Jeffries on why Democrats refuse to consider a short-term extension of the subsidies to avoid a shutdown. Jeffries accused Republicans of playing politics; Quick countered that Democrats seemed more interested in locking in political leverage than in passing a bipartisan fix. Proft described the encounter as a rare moment of a mainstream host cutting through partisan talking points.
Stephen Moore—economist, author, and longtime Trump advisor—joined the program to discuss the fiscal implications and broader economic landscape. “It is the Unaffordable Care Act,” Moore said, echoing a term he claims he and his colleagues at the Committee to Unleash Prosperity helped popularize. Fifteen years after Obamacare passed, Moore noted, premiums have doubled or tripled in many states and are set to rise another 12 to 20 percent next year. “We couldn’t devise a stupider way to pay for healthcare,” he argued.
Moore contends the core problem is structural—Americans rarely pay directly for routine care, obscuring prices, reducing competition, and allowing hospitals and insurers to charge widely divergent rates for the same services. He called for a return to catastrophic insurance models paired with transparent cash pricing for everyday medical needs. “If you go in for an MRI, one hospital charges $800 and another charges $1,800,” he said. “Nobody asks the price because first-dollar coverage has made everyone numb to costs.”
Asked what might happen in Washington before year-end, Moore said he expects another shutdown, arguing Democrats have shown little interest in negotiating. He expressed support for Trump’s refusal to extend subsidies for high-income households, calling the policy “crazy.”
The discussion broadened to overall affordability in blue states, where Moore pointed to high regulatory burdens, rent control, zoning caps, and steep tax regimes as drivers of elevated living costs. He echoed Fareed Zakaria’s recent commentary noting that states like New York, Illinois, and California are among the least affordable in the nation despite decades of progressive policy.
Proft then played a clip from historian Victor Davis Hanson, who predicted Trump would enter 2025 politically dominant and poised to preside over a strong economic resurgence if elected. Moore agreed on the economic forecast—predicting above 4 percent growth fueled by investment, energy expansion, and Trump’s “big, beautiful” tax cuts taking full effect—but cautioned that Republicans could still struggle in the midterms. “Democrats are energized,” he said, referencing recent off-year election results.
Still, Moore insisted that economic fundamentals under a potential second Trump term would quickly eclipse current performance. Increased foreign investment, regulatory rollbacks, and expanded domestic energy production, he argued, would lower costs, raise wages, and generate enough tax revenue to begin bringing the deficit down.
As Congress edges closer to another funding deadline, both Proft and Moore suggested that the debate over Obamacare subsidies reflects a deeper divide—whether the U.S. moves toward more government control of healthcare or returns to consumer-driven models with transparent pricing and market discipline. For now, the political fight appears far from resolved, with major fiscal and electoral implications looming in the months ahead.


